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What's better? 02 Dec 2004 21:19 #28731

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My wife and I may have just found the space we need to get our theatre project off the ground. However, this space is a little larger than what we had been looking for (10,000sqft as opposed to 6,000sqft).

Originally, we were planning on a 2 screen art house theatre with a small café. But now with the extra square footage in the space we just found, it might be possible to put three screens in.

My question is, is it better to have 2 pretty decent size rooms (200 seats each) or have one main theatre (200 seats) and two smaller ones (100 each)?

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Re: What's better? 02 Dec 2004 23:32 #28732

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If you're running first run or art... the more screens the better. If subrun... the fewer the better.
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Re: What's better? 03 Dec 2004 11:23 #28733

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I'd vote for the three screens. Work with a good theatre architect and theatre dealer to be sure the theatres have a "big screen" experience (most of seats 2 to 4 times the height of the image from the screen, 2.39:1 scope filling the screen and 1.85:1 flat with side masking, for art or classic films be sure you can also show 1.66:1 and 1.37:1 properly). Even with a sloped floor design, you can have good sightlines, with comfortable wide seats and lots of legroom.

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Re: What's better? 08 Dec 2004 00:37 #28734

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As an arthouse guy, I would definitely vote for 3 screens. That third screen can make you money playing off films on shows, while you continue to try to keep up with the non-stop release cycle. I have 5 screens and I need between 8 and 10.
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Re: What's better? 08 Dec 2004 09:35 #28735

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Thanks everyone for your replies. We are working with the architect to try to fit 3 screens in this space.

On another similar, but different note, how imortant has it been for you vetrans to have a "lounge" type area where patrons can sit and discuss the films, hang-out or enjoy something to eat prior to the show?
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Re: What's better? 08 Dec 2004 09:36 #28736

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Rialto, what size city are you in?
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Re: What's better? 08 Dec 2004 12:03 #28737

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A lounge is nice but the reason people will come is film so the more the better. I would sooner die that choose 2 over 3. Think 3 bears: big-med-small. You won't be sorry. A nice lobby is very important.

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Re: What's better? 08 Dec 2004 12:16 #28738

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That's what we were thinking.

What's great about the place that we found is that it has a 2200sqft space that will make a great cafe area and it is attached to another building that has 7800sqft for the theatres. So we are trying to determine whether or not the cafe area will suffice or if we should plan on another space for sitting (a conference room perhaps?)

Let me throw this out there as well, this space has 14ft from ground to the support beams. Are there any of you out there with this low of a ceiling height? If so, what are your dimensions? how many seats?
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Re: What's better? 13 Dec 2004 03:04 #28739

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I’m building a four-plex in a 10k sq. ft. space right now (into the project about 5 months. Two to go). My suggestion for designing a lobby would be to make sure exiting and entering crowds do not mix. With a space that small and with foot traffic constantly moving in and out, it prevents pockets of people clogging up the flow. If you hit: http://www.darksidecinema.com/
and look between the two construction photos, you’ll see a link to floor plans. You’ll see I have a rather small entrance lobby at the bottom (south) right above the Construction Photos Taken From this Point label. The corridor between the concession area and theatre 1(west) is the exit so people who have seen the movie do not “mix” with those waiting to go in.
Low Ceilings: Mine are 12 feet. Before I started on this one I visited a theater with an 11 foot ceiling with 120 seats. My auditoriums are 50 people and I’m using first-surface mirrors to get the projector beam as close to the ceiling as I can before it heads off to the 7x16’ screens. The bottom of the beam will be 6’ from the floor well in front of the first row, thus avoiding head shadows. My current theatre has 15’ ceilings and they work out just fine for a 110 seat theater. (We just started installing the booth and have 4 matching Motiograph AAs, RCA 9030s, and Strong Lumex lamps. Last night we fired up the speakers and tested the sound proofing. Next to no bleed through.)
For sound-proofing between the auditoriums I used three walls. The two outside walls are double sheetrocked, the inside wall is single rocked and is air-tight. No insulation and NOTHING connecting the walls: wires, studs, spray foam sealer. All floors have an underlayment of sound board. All connecting walls have footers and headers insulated from shared structural beams with a layer of sound board.
Good idea to get ideas now before bending nails. And once you start bending nails, expect to change plans daily. Best of luck.
Paul Turner
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