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what color for the soundfold wall covering? 26 May 2004 20:50 #28628

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If I am installing light blue chairs with gray backs what color should be on the walls?
anyone have ideas?
my carpet is a blue and black speckled carpet and the carpet for the walls above the seats is blue brown black light gold speckled kinda
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Re: what color for the soundfold wall covering? 27 May 2004 06:04 #28629

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Rick, you have already got a lot of dark colors in that room, so why not go with something that gives a little more life to the scene, such as a soft coral red color? If you are afraid of too much light reflection from the screen onto light colored walls, simply use a gray or gray-blue towards the screen, and then start a lighter color towards the middle and rear of the auditorium. You could also alternate such colors in wide stripes from top to bottom along the wall.

Don't make your auditoriums into 'coffins' with colors so dark that all service light is absorbed and the place looks depressing. This is a sad situation in too many cinemas these days, with the exhibitor thinking that darker colors will show less dirt and pose no light reflection problems. A cinema should look happy, never funereal! But don't go to the opposite extreme with fluorescent colors and glittered flocks and foils or such. If selecting colors/fabrics throws you, consult a guy who has designed cinemas and let him be your guide, after you have reviewed the cinemas he has decorated and of which you approve.
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Re: what color for the soundfold wall covering? 11 Jun 2004 09:34 #28630

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I think that jimor has the right idea. You already have all the dark you need. But you could even go a little lighter. A soft rose or pink would work also. What ever you choose, go with something lighter.
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Re: what color for the soundfold wall covering? 12 Jun 2004 12:10 #28631

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I am also buying new curtains this summer. I have a kid who is supposed to take an auditorium picture off this site: http://www.cinematour.com/tour.php?db=us&id=1887 and change the curtain color for me using photoshop. I like the red curtains, but just want to see what some other colors will look like before I purchase the material.
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Re: what color for the soundfold wall covering? 13 Jun 2004 09:26 #28632

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Red is a hackneyed color if there ever was one; why not consider bright leaf green walls with a forest green border at bottom or for all panels near the screen? That should go well with your medium green seats, if you intend to keep that color for long.

Remember that the color will look different depending upon light angle (height of fabric on wall), whether or not it has any pile, etc., so it is good to try get a supplier to send you a few sample lengths to hang onto your existing wall to see them under existing lights. They might well have standard pre-cut panels in stock and be willing to send you several of them on what is called 'Memo-Loan' where you return their agreement letter about returning the samples undamaged, and the loan is usually free of charge for a month or two. You might even leave them up on display with a sign asking patrons to comment via the Comment Cards you leave out in the lobby. And don't be afraid of using a small pattern/weave or alternating colors to break up the expanse; that might not cost any more.
Best Wishes.
P.S. You HAVE discussed flameproofing requirements with local building inspector, haven't you? It may be best to get their requiremens on this in writing to CYA! (don't depend upon any assurances from a supplier; their job is to sell the panels, and they are not legally responsible to live up to the law; you are! It would be a shame to have an inspector order you to tear down custom-cut panels that do not meet city statutes --or their interpretation of them! And likely the sales contract you sign with the supplier makes it clear that you cannot return them.)
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Re: what color for the soundfold wall covering? 13 Jun 2004 15:26 #28633

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thanks for everyones advice, its all very helpfull.
now one more question altho it doesnt necessarily go along with this post but possibly.
how can i get some lights for the wall at a affordable price?
anyone ever build there own?
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Re: what color for the soundfold wall covering? 15 Jun 2004 10:14 #28634

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Rick has certainly raised an interesting question about making ones own, inexpensive lights. If only it were that simple. One may be quite the craftsman, and have electrical knowledge, BUT in a place of public gathering, there are building codes to be considered as well as the limitations of your property and liability insurance. Yes, one could probably go so far as to put a gooseneck lamp holder onto an electrical box and get away with it, but to do much more than this without DOCUMENTED inspection by a licensed electrician of your locality, will likely void your insurance and likely put you in violation of local building codes. Should there ever thereafter one of your 'amateur' installations be ANY type of electrical problem, any insurance inspector will definitely look for any undocumented changes and blame these for the cause, proximal or not, as to any claim brought against the insurance company, and they will be sure to notify your local enforcement people of any suspected violations of code, since this helps their case of denying any claims in court. No matter how much an insurance salesman may smile, they are NEVER your 'friend' and building inspectors won't even pretend to be. Don't leave yourself open to future legal problems by installing home-made fixtures without Underwriter's Labs seals (or CSA or whatever you LOCAL authorities consider legal). One might think that merely following the National Electrical Code of the USA would be sufficient, but you would be mistaken. Many municipalities have NOT adopted that code by action of law (it is not a law, but a suggested standard made up a division of the insurance industry), so it is merely suggestive until such time as they do so by statute. Consult a TRUSTED local electrician who should know about this, or write to the municipality or your elected representative there and ask them for a written response as to what LOCAL and state statues obtain in your area. Remember, as any lawyer will tell you, 'Ignorance of the Law is no excuse.'

On the other hand, if you would merely like to change the shade on a sconce, or put a color filter in a floodlight, those are things that you can almost always do without endangering your legal or insurance standing. BUT if you modify a fixture substantially, especially so as to increase its heat retention and the consequent possibility of a fire, you do risk negating your insurance at the minimum. If you want only a new decorative effect without the expense of hiring electricians, you might plug in some LOW VOLTAGE lights; there are now such as strings of LEDs made for holiday lighting, but also available in only white, that would allow some ornamental value with never a light bulb replacement issue. Still, to be legally safe, all such light sets are labeled by UL standards for ONLY temporary use, a clause which any insurance company lawyer will eagerly clamp onto in the event of any claim against them. In any case, Best Wishes, Jim
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Re: what color for the soundfold wall covering? 15 Jun 2004 12:15 #28635

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I have not "built" my own lights but I have used things "out-of-context".

Several years ago I was looking for wall sconces. Could not find any at a reasonable price. Ended up a lighting fixture store which specialized in bathroom lighting for the home. Found almost the same fixture as the theatre sconces that I had looked at under the guise of a bathroom lighting fixture - all it needed was diffent bulbs. The sconces were $500 each and the bathroom fixtures were $50 each - to this day I cannot tell the difference.

The biggest thing to remember in doing theatre renovations cheaply is to think outside the box.

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Re: what color for the soundfold wall covering? 15 Jun 2004 16:59 #28636

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On theatre # 2 we had these very cool original wall sconces but they were the wrong size. We had fiberglass ones made to match only 60% bigger: painted e m gold, drilled some holes, stuck in the plastic mirro stars and voila!

They were installed essentially as "lamp shades" over UL and elec approved fixtures.
And look svelte'!

One of my sbusinesses is custom fiberglass but it was and is still cheap for anyone to do custom FG items!

See you!


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Re: what color for the soundfold wall covering? 15 Jun 2004 17:02 #28637

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color: do not let amateurs pick colors for you. You want to kill a room? Pick weird colors. And you don't have to feel like since "you're already spending all that money I better get more colors." More can be too much in a hurry!

Light blue and grey..... how about a grey blue tweed? Get professionals or ask your seat or curtain guys!

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Re: what color for the soundfold wall covering? 15 Jun 2004 20:25 #28638

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Hi
I thought about gray or a med blue with red in the middle of the wall around the lights. the current curtains around the exitsw are red and the isle lights are red. what do u think?
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Re: what color for the soundfold wall covering? 16 Jun 2004 07:54 #28639

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The safest color scheme is always the most limited; if you want to play it safe, and have little 'color sense' of your own, just pick one color and do tints or shades of it. For example, if your seats are green, go with lighter and darker shades of green. If they are blue-green, then you can introduce various blues as well as greens. This is the same basic principle for men to choose neck ties and other items to go with their suits; a variation of one color is hard to go wrong.

Rick, if your exit areas are already red and you are not eager to replace them, then go with a variation of red elsewhere: coral (which strays towards ornage), rose (which strays towards blue); even a brick red or terra cotta (which strays towards brown) would spread the spectrum, yet stay within your existing scheme. You would probably want to stay away from any of the purples/lavenders/taupes since these can become feminine and difficult to pull off with dignity.

A lighter color around the wall lights will help to reflect more light into the room, so you will have to determine how much light is there now, and how much you want to increase it, if any. Many cinemas go with a darker color from six feet and downward on a wall to forestall showing dirt and vandalism, with lighter colors above that. There, if the use of true color scares you, consider using neutrals such as cream, sand, or gray tones; they are uninspiring, but they are neutral and will not clash with anything. You could play off of 'sand' or 'cream' with shades of brown and dark red. Go to a hardware or paints/papers store and look at their wall of paint shade cards; they will be arranged in color 'families' and will thus guide you to appropriate harmonies. Another approach is to make a drawing of your walls in black on white paper and then add colors via water colors, color pens, or the like to get an idea of how it will look. This can be done on computer if you know the various art programs. Lastly, you can always hire a man skilled in decoration, whose achievements you admire; he will not leave your place looking feminine and he will have the color sense you are seeking, but he will, of course, charge for his advice or design input, as you would expect. Let us know what you decide upon. Best Wishes, Jim
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Re: what color for the soundfold wall covering? 16 Jun 2004 08:56 #28640

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Be careful not to go too light on the decor, especially near the screen. Very light ceilings and walls can reflect light back to the screen, reducing image contrast. You don't want your theatre looking like a cave, but at the same time, pay attention to stray light and its effect on contrast.

The old General Cinema Corporation "shadowbox" design, where the screen was surrounded by white walls, really hurt image quality:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/newsletters/pytlak/dec99.shtml


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Re: what color for the soundfold wall covering? 16 Jun 2004 14:05 #28641

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Contrary to most of the posts here, I favor a dark non-reflective color such as black, charcoal gray, or navy for the same reasons JOHN mentions, and also because it creates a dark cavelike atmosphere which doesn't detract from what's on the screen... On a bright summer day it seems appropriate to go into a dark and cool theater to enjoy a movie... Even on a cold gray winter day, there is something appealing about the cavelike darkness of a movie theater... Movies were intended to be seen in the dark, it's part of the magic!...
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