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Re: Second Generation Red LEDs 24 Jul 2003 13:27 #21600

  • Barry Floyd
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Maybe because I only have one screen, but I really don't see the costs associated with the conversion of the red-reader to be "that" expensive.

I have a Simplex SH-1012 soundhead that "was" equipped with a Kelmar MONO cell, dual exciters, and a bulky modular plug-in style pre-amp. The wiring was a spaghetti mess of tangled wires, bad solder joints, old compents, etc.
We had all of that stuff completely ripped out of the soundhead and replaced with a Component Engineering reverse scan reader.

Total cost associated with removal of the old stuff, purchasing the new equipment, installation and alignment was only about $1,100.00.

I will admit that I did end up spending more for the upgrade than I did on the entire soundhead (used). However, I just see it as a cost of doing business, and it will result in giving my patrons truly much better sound than they would have had otherwise, and better yet... as a business expense it is either deductable or depreciatable on your taxes at year end.

Barry Floyd
Floyd Entertainment Group
Lebanon, Tennessee

Stardust Drive-In Theatre
Watertown, Tennessee

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Barry Floyd
Floyd Entertainment Group
Lebanon, Tennessee

Stardust Drive-In Theatre
Watertown, Tennessee
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Re: Second Generation Red LEDs 25 Jul 2003 00:53 #21601

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I have enough deductions and depreciable expenses. : )

I bought my reader a few months ago, but still have not had it installed. $$$$$$$$
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Re: Second Generation Red LEDs 25 Jul 2003 02:49 #21602

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Yeah, BURNEY, I'm gonna need a pair of these stupid things, and until the tax is MORE than 100% of the cost, it still ends up coming out of our pocket... IF there was a sound improvement, it wouldn't be such a bitter pill, but cyan looks like a step backwards, and to have to pay to play just adds injury to the insult!...
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Re: Second Generation Red LEDs 25 Jul 2003 08:56 #21603

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Reverse scan red LED readers offer significant improvement over old tungsten exciter lamp readers. Sound processors with noise reduction have been in use since the early 1970's. The LOUDEST critics of this change seem to be the ones who haven't spent a dime on upgrading sound quality in 30 years. And thank goodness the industry has many people who DO care about improving the environment and reducing water usage. <rant over>

John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
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Entertainment Imaging
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Eastman Kodak Company
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Re: Second Generation Red LEDs 25 Jul 2003 14:15 #21604

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Well, John, I can't speak for ALL the critics, but I have an awesome optical analog stereo sound system, with all the bells and whistles (including noise reduction) which cost a TON, even though I built it myself... AND both Dolby A & SR sound fantastic on it: I can even synthesize an old mono track to stereo, and perform some noise reduction... SO, here's ONE critic who is willing to update and spend a few bucks, where there is an improvement to be gained... However, the cyan track is admittedly noisier by 1.5 db to 4.0 db (depending on WHO is doing the rating) and that's not an "improvement" I am delighted to be forced to pay for!...

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Re: Second Generation Red LEDs 25 Jul 2003 15:04 #21605

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Reverse scan red LED like would offer significant improvement for you, even IF cyan dye tracks don't happen. And WHEN cyan tracks do happen, it helps the environment too.

John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Customer Technical Services
Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Eastman Kodak Company
Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Customer Technical Services
Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Eastman Kodak Company
Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Telephone: +1 585-477-5325 Fax: +1 585-722-7243
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Website: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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Re: Second Generation Red LEDs 31 Jul 2003 19:42 #21606

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Outaframe - you have made your point, move on. Don't change, the rest of us could careless if you do or not. We have changed our chain over to Red LED readers and are very happy with them.

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Re: Second Generation Red LEDs 31 Jul 2003 22:09 #21607

What make of processor are you using
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