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Cyan Dye Soundtracks on all MGM Prints 19 Mar 2004 08:08 #21879

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I received this press release today:

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MGM to Issue All 35 mm Prints
with Pure-Dye Analog Soundtracks

(March 19, 2004)—MGM and the Dye Track Committee have announced that beginning with the release of Soul Plane on May 28th, 2004, all 35 mm prints of all MGM titles will be issued in the US exclusively with pure-dye cyan analog soundtracks. MGM is the first studio to use environmentally friendly cyan tracks in lieu of traditional silver-applicated tracks on 100% of its 35 mm releases.

Environmental benefits of the cyan soundtrack include the elimination of caustic chemicals, and silver itself, from the print manufacturing process. The switch also enables a significant reduction in water usage: were all U.S. print manufacturing to convert to cyan tracks, the ongoing savings would be equivalent to the drinking water needs of a town of 75,000. Silver-applicated tracks have the further disadvantage of a comparatively high manufacturing reject rate.

“MGM is proud to be in the forefront of this landmark change in film sound-tracks, and to be taking a significant step in improving the environment,” said Chris Aronson, Executive Vice President, General Sales Manager, MGM. Added Ioan Allen of the Dye Track Committee, “MGM’s commitment is a major step in this unique partnership between studios and theatres.”

In exhibition, cyan soundtracks require red-light soundtrack readers, which have been standard in new projector models for some time. It is estimated that the vast majority of the projectors in use in the U.S. are now equipped with red-light readers, making it now practical to use cyan tracks on all 35 mm prints. “We are grateful for MGM’s leadership, and delighted that the studios are taking advantage of the theatres' shift to red light readers,” said John Fithian, President, National Association of Theatre Owners. “This shows that the film industry as a whole has an environmental conscience.”

The move to pure-dye soundtracks has been spearheaded by the six-year-old Dye Track Committee, which consists of representatives of Eastman Kodak, Dolby Laboratories, and print laboratories that include Deluxe and Technicolor. The technology has been thoroughly and successfully tested by labs, film distributors, and exhibitors over the past four years. Digital soundtracks are not silver-applicated, so are not affected by the decision to use cyan analog tracks.


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Re: Cyan Dye Soundtracks on all MGM Prints 21 Mar 2004 12:54 #21880

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Thanks for posting this, John!
It is the first news I have gotten on this although I am sure that NATO will inform us all by mail.
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Re: Cyan Dye Soundtracks on all MGM Prints 25 Mar 2004 10:14 #21881

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I got the same notice, is this for real this time? I got one from Dreamworks for a specific movie about a year ago.
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Re: Cyan Dye Soundtracks on all MGM Prints 25 Mar 2004 10:38 #21882

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We received this fax too...AND about a year ago. Has anyone completed this upgrade? Any idea about the cost?
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Re: Cyan Dye Soundtracks on all MGM Prints 25 Mar 2004 13:55 #21883

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FYI: NATO who represents our interests as independent theater owners agreed that we would all be ready to accept cyan dye only prints by July, 2003. We have all had plenty of notice and time to get upgraded to red light readers. Dreamworks was the first studio to issue a cyan dye only print last fall with Woody Allen's Anything Goes. Since most of us didn't play it we still have not had a cyan dye only print in our theater. Now MGM will be the first studio to issue all its prints in cyan dye only.

We have completed refitting all our projectors to red light readers and we had a later start since we didn't buy the theater until February, 2003. Too bad they didn't start with Agent Cody Banks 2 as we are playing that now and would like to see how the prints sound before we upgrade all theaters to digital sound. BTW I have now received my official NATO press release on this now. If you want to know what is going on in your industry so that you don't receive any unpleasant surprises like running a film with no sound, you join the industry trade groups who will keep you informed and look out for your interests.

BTW John Pytlak is on the Dye Track Committee and would be receiving the information at the same time as NATO, so it is not surprising that he posted the information before NATO was able to notify all of us. That is one of the benefits of the web and I just wanted to thank John for taking the time and trouble to put it out there.
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Re: Cyan Dye Soundtracks on all MGM Prints 29 Mar 2004 14:02 #21884

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Disney also announced they will be converting to cyan dye tracks beginning late this summer, and go 100% in January 2005:
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Disney Announces Switch to Environmentally Friendly Pure-Dye Cyan Soundtracks on Worldwide Film Release Prints Starting This Fall
BURBANK, Calif., March 22 /PRNewswire/ -- Starting this fall, Buena Vista Pictures Distribution will begin issuing 35mm prints of Walt Disney Pictures and Touchstone Pictures releases with environmentally friendly pure-dye cyan soundtracks, it was announced today (3/22/04) by Chuck Viane, president of Buena Vista Pictures Distribution, and Jeff Miller, executive vice president, Worldwide Post Production and Operations for The Walt Disney Studios. This new soundtrack technology represents a significant environmental advance for the motion pictures industry, and eliminates the use of traditional silver- applicated tracks and the caustic chemicals involved in that process. Buena Vista plans to switch entirely to cyan soundtracks on all of its worldwide release prints by January, 2005. To accomplish this goal, the Disney distribution arm is working closely with Dolby, Kodak, Technicolor and NATO to perfect the technology and encourage theater owners to install RED LED soundtrack readers on their projectors. RED LED readers, which are now standard in all US manufactured projectors, are currently installed in the vast majority of projectors in use in this country. MGM has also announced that they will be issuing pure-dye cyan soundtracks on all release prints beginning this May.

Other links:
http://www.mickeynews.com/News/DisplayPressRelease.asp_Q_id_E_3234Sound
http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/news/sbnews.cfm?ID=3505

John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
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Re: Cyan Dye Soundtracks on all MGM Prints 02 Apr 2004 21:19 #21885

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I'd like to hear people's experience with this too before we invest but it looks like we'll have little choice before long.

I agree that joining NATO and other trade groups is very valuable for getting info and help, even if you sometimes don't agree with them. NATO is putting togetehr a buying combine to help independents get projector supplies and more at a better price because of buying volume.
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Re: Cyan Dye Soundtracks on all MGM Prints 07 Apr 2004 13:19 #21886

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My drive-in is fully upgraded with reverse scanners. My indoor is half-done. I'm in the process of replacing my projectors with different brands, and the upgrade would not be compatible with both brands. With my current personal schedule, finding time to work on that booth is a challenge right now. However, I'm not too worried about it. Once those films do start coming in, I'll have screens to play them in... and it'll give me a kick in the backside toward getting the other machines done.

On the other hand, there is the possibility that the manufacturers (there are maybe 3 good ones) will be swamped when it finally sinks in that the industry's serious about this. If you don't have the readers on the shelf, be aware you might not be able to get then shipped overnight.
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Re: Cyan Dye Soundtracks on all MGM Prints 19 Apr 2004 13:50 #21887

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Here is the latest from the Dye Tracks website:
http://www.dyetracks.org/article_DisneyMGM_0404.html
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Commit to Cyan Analog Soundtracks

At ShoWest 2004 in Las Vegas in March, Disney and MGM announced significant commitments to using environmentally friendly pure-dye cyan analog soundtracks in lieu of traditional silver-applicated tracks on their 35 mm release prints.

This fall, beginning with Mr. 3000, Buena Vista Pictures Distribution will start issuing Disney and Touchstone 35 mm releases with pure-dye cyan soundtracks, and plans to switch entirely to cyan on all prints worldwide by January 2005. In the meantime, MGM becomes the first studio to use cyan soundtracks on 100% of its U.S. releases, beginning with Soul Plane in May of this year.

Environmental benefits of the cyan soundtrack include the elimination of caustic chemicals, and silver itself, from the print manufacturing process, plus a significant reduction in water usage. The technology has been thoroughly and successfully tested by labs, film distributors, and exhibitors over the past four years. The widespread use of red-light soundtrack readers in cinemas now makes it practical to issue all 35 mm prints with cyan tracks in many markets, such as the U.S., where it is estimated that the vast majority of screens are now equipped. Digital soundtracks are not affected by the change.
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http://www.dyetracks.org/press/pr_Disney_0304.html

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Announces Switch to Environmentally Friendly
Pure-Dye Cyan Soundtracks on Worldwide Film Release Prints

Starting This Fall Buena Vista Partners With Kodak, Dolby
and NATO to Eliminate Silver Soundtracks

BURBANK, Calif., March 22, 2004, PR Newswire—Starting this fall, Buena Vista Pictures Distribution will begin issuing 35mm prints of Walt Disney Pictures and Touchstone Pictures releases with environmentally friendly pure-dye cyan soundtracks, it was announced today (3/22/04) by Chuck Viane, president of Buena Vista Pictures Distribution, and Jeff Miller, executive vice president, Worldwide Post Production and Operations for The Walt Disney Studios. This new soundtrack technology represents a significant environmental advance for the motion pictures industry, and eliminates the use of traditional silver- applicated tracks and the caustic chemicals involved in that process. Buena Vista plans to switch entirely to cyan soundtracks on all of its worldwide release prints by January, 2005.

To accomplish this goal, the Disney distribution arm is working closely with Dolby, Kodak, Technicolor and NATO to perfect the technology and encourage theater owners to install RED LED soundtrack readers on their projectors. RED LED readers, which are now standard in all US manufactured projectors, are currently installed in the vast majority of projectors in use in this country. MGM has also announced that they will be issuing pure-dye cyan soundtracks on all release prints beginning this May. (Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20040322/LAM133)

Commenting on the announcement, Viane said, "Our industry is striving to eliminate sources of environmental harm, improve lab productivity and theatrical efficiency, and Buena Vista is proud to be taking a cutting edge position in this worthy effort. Most theater projectors are now equipped with the RED LED readers and we expect the others to convert to this technology by 2005. I'm sure that other distributors will soon be supporting this movement to cyan soundtracks and that together we can all do our part to make this a cleaner planet."

Jeff Miller added, "Dolby, Kodak, Technicolor, NATO, and our Studio have been working hard to perfect the new cyan soundtrack technology so that audiences will enjoy the sound reproduction for analog tracks on RED LED readers as the filmmakers intended. Buena Vista will release one of its major fall titles with this type of soundtrack as we move forward with our plans for complete conversion by January, 2005. This is a major advance for our industry and something we can all be very proud of."

John Fithian, president of the National Association of Theatre Owners, said, "NATO congratulates our friends at Disney for taking this important step. It's wonderful to see America's movie theatres and movie studios work together to improve our environment."

In addition to eliminating silver and all of the associated caustic chemicals used in the old process, the new cyan soundtrack technology provides enormous benefits in terms of water conservation. Given that a typical movie release may require between 5,000 to 10,000 prints, it is estimated that this new approach to film production can conserve enough water to supply a town of 75,000 people with drinking water each year.

PR Newswire (U.S.) Copyright ® 2004 PR Newswire Association LLC. All Rights Reserved.
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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
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Customer Technical Services
Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Eastman Kodak Company
Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Telephone: +1 585-477-5325 Fax: +1 585-722-7243
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Re: Cyan Dye Soundtracks on all MGM Prints 21 Apr 2004 12:23 #21888

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Thanks for the information John.

Is there a list of distributors who have already switched over to the cyan tracks?

I understand that eventually everyone will, and I'm raising the money for us to upgrade our machines.

I also contacted NATO about joining but have not heard back. We are a non-profit and their application says that they are for profit organizations only.

The information on these forums is very helpful.

Best,
Sandra
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Re: Cyan Dye Soundtracks on all MGM Prints 21 Apr 2004 12:56 #21889

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Real Butter:
MGM and Buena Vista are the first two to make the switch to cyan only dye tracks. If you are planning to run Soul Plane from MGM or anything else they release after May 28th you will need to have a red light reader installed. Buena Vista is not going until fall with the release of MR 3000 which currently has a date of Sept 24. Buena Vista did not say that all of their fall/Christmas releases would be cyan only so you may have a bit of room there but don't delay any later than that as I suspect that Buena Vista products will probably be a very important part of your business.
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Re: Cyan Dye Soundtracks on all MGM Prints 21 Apr 2004 13:02 #21890

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So far, Disney and MGM have announced plans for complete conversion to cyan dye tracks. Dreamworks had very good results with 100% cyan dye tracks with Woody Allen's "Anything Else".

The issue has been that less developed countries have a much lower penetration of red LED readers, and distributors want to be sure they can "recycle" prints into those countries. Since relatively few prints are needed for those developing countries, one proposed plan would be to make a few "high magenta" (magenta+silver) prints along with the cyan dye prints and release this random mix of prints in developed countries with red readers, then sort out the ones with "high magenta" tracks for recycling overseas.

John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Customer Technical Services
Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Eastman Kodak Company
Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Telephone: +1 585-477-5325 Cell: +1 585-781-4036 Fax: +1 585-722-7243
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Website: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
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Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Eastman Kodak Company
Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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