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Miramax Strikes (or should I say Screws?) Again 22 Nov 2004 23:22 #9518

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This monday morning November 22nd Miramax announced it was pulling most of its dates of Finding Neverland in Pennsylvania which was to open on this Wednesday November 24th. I understand that the Philadelphia area - which was to get 24 prints of Neverland - will now get only 3.
I bet an awful lot of bookers were scrambling.

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Re: Miramax Strikes (or should I say Screws?) Again 22 Nov 2004 23:41 #9519

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So much for reasonable notice: what a bunch of nice guys!...
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Re: Miramax Strikes (or should I say Screws?) Again 23 Nov 2004 03:38 #9520

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To be completely fair - it's not the poor bookers' fault over at Miramax. These poor guys have to work at the whims of the Weinstein brothers. If they change their mind, that's the way it is or your job is in jeopardy.
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Re: Miramax Strikes (or should I say Screws?) Again 23 Nov 2004 09:54 #9521

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Thank goodness I'm in Iowa. Nobody really cares what happens here....
"What a crazy business"
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Re: Miramax Strikes (or should I say Screws?) Again 23 Nov 2004 11:55 #9522

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I am not sure how much you can blame the Weinsteins. I understand they are set to exit Miramax anyday now - with only how many dollars they get being at issue.
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Re: Miramax Strikes (or should I say Screws?) Again 23 Nov 2004 13:20 #9523

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Well many things have changed over at Miramax in the last few months. They have down sized their staff and also been dusting off old properties that have been sitting on their shelves. It's all up to what Disney wants to do with the divisions, Miramax and Dimension Films.
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Re: Miramax Strikes (or should I say Screws?) Again 23 Nov 2004 18:53 #9524

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There is also the question of what scale of release is appropriate for the film. People who have seen the film have told me that it really should be handled like a platform release and open slowly and build based on word of mouth and critical acclaim. It sounds to me like the folks at Miramax realized that, albiet a bit late in the game, and scaled back the release accordingly. It certainly can't have been a question of prints because they have 900 prints that were used for sneaks with Shall We Dance several weeks ago.
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Re: Miramax Strikes (or should I say Screws?) Again 23 Nov 2004 20:00 #9525

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Actually the decision by Miramax would be more understandable if there was a print shortage.

In my view, this business is really a defacto partnership between distributors and exhibitors. In any good partnership, while there is give and take among the parties, there has to be a basic respect and understanding for the position and needs of the other.

With Miramax it always seems to be a one-way street. It is their way .... or not at all. It is for this reason I choose to have little to do with them.

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Re: Miramax Strikes (or should I say Screws?) Again 23 Nov 2004 22:44 #9526

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Please elaborate. I get films much later then the majority of you and Miramax has been just fine to work with. No better and no worse then any other studio from my perspective. As I am going to be getting films much sooner I want to know what I may be getting into with Miramax (or any other studio for that matter).
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Re: Miramax Strikes (or should I say Screws?) Again 24 Nov 2004 00:05 #9527

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OK... some wild, totally uninformed speculation here:

Could this be a reaction to the lackluster performance of "Polar Express"?

You've got "National Treasure" grossing more than anyone expected, and "Incredibles" is still doing well.

Maybe this is just belated timing??? They might not have confidence that "Neverland" will get enough notice right now.
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Re: Miramax Strikes (or should I say Screws?) Again 24 Nov 2004 05:00 #9528

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They cut the release back from 800 to 513.
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Re: Miramax Strikes (or should I say Screws?) Again 24 Nov 2004 11:02 #9529

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The online listings only show 7 locations in the Seattle region playing "Neverland". By contrast, 39 locations have "Incredibles".

There are none in my county (about 30 miles W of Seattle). A wide release can land in as many as 5 locations here, not counting multiple prints.

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Re: Miramax Strikes (or should I say Screws?) Again 08 Dec 2004 00:33 #9530

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Having now seen Finding Neverland, I can report that it really is a specialized film and needs the kind of careful, slow build release that Miramax built its considerable reputation on. Year-end critical acclaim and positive word of mouth are going to be key. As an arthouse guy, I wish it was playing in my theatre, but we weren't offered it. But that's ok, we are riding the Sideways, Kinsey, Closer wave.
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Re: Miramax Strikes (or should I say Screws?) Again 08 Dec 2004 11:57 #9531

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Miramax more than any other film co is the most careful manager of releases and prints. This is just another example. Remember Chicago? The pic has good buzz. My wife (who would leave me for Depp faster than you can light a smoke in a Parisian cafe) and every girl/women within 1000 miles wants to see Mr. Depp.

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Re: Miramax Strikes (or should I say Screws?) Again 09 Dec 2004 19:59 #9532

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Saw it the other day and it was GREAT. My order is in.
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