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3D alternative 19 Nov 2009 09:27 #32830

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Technicolor announced at ShowEast it is unvailing a 35mm film 3D alternative. Has anyone else looked into this? It could be a bridge between film and digital but it is very expensive,:woohoo: I think it could very easily be more than a digital projector with install. Man it would have been an easy conversion though, their lens,a silver screen and thats it. B) Maybe Technicolor is reading and will reconsider the lease fees for the lens and give us independents a break . :angry:
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Re:3D alternative 19 Nov 2009 13:29 #32833

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That's interesting.

Everyting I've read says the Technicolor alternative would be only a fraction of what a digital 3D system would cost. Even if you had to buy the stuff, a fancy lens and silver screen shouldn't run you more than $10,000. From the numbers floated on another board, it could be less.

The larger problem would likely be one of momentum. The studios REALLY want this digital stuff to take the place of film. They probably would not (publicly) consider something that would extend the life of the film medium to be in their interest.
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Re:3D alternative 19 Nov 2009 14:34 #32835

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Sheri,
would you mind sharing some lease details with us.
I've been trying to contact Technicolor but they will not respond.
Thanks,
Jay
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Re:3D alternative 19 Nov 2009 17:04 #32836

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will not respond. I guess that's how hard they're selling.
Michael Hurley
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Re:3D alternative 19 Nov 2009 17:51 #32837

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I Have spoken with them. They have two options

Option A:
No upfront or annual license fees
$3000 fee per feature (per lens)

Option B:
No upfront or annual license fees
$0.50 per ticket sold, minimum of $2000 per feature (per lens)
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Re:3D alternative 19 Nov 2009 18:59 #32838

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Looks like they really do not want to get customers. i can't imagine doing either of those scenario.
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Re:3D alternative 19 Nov 2009 19:15 #32839

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Manland thats what I was told also and the deal is 3 yrs with 1 year renewels and the theater will never get ownership of the lens we would always pay a lease fee.:angry:
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Re:3D alternative 20 Nov 2009 01:30 #32841

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I don't mind the lease idea. In 3 years hopefully the prices have dropped enough to be able to change to digital and then I don't want to have any more obsolete equipment then I have now.
However, I now know why they haven't returned my calls/e-mails. They probably had a look at my grosses and figured (quite rightly) that there is no way I can afford $3000 or even $2000. At Showeast was also a another exhibitor (I forgot the name) who said they'll come out with a similar system(side by side) soon and it will be in the mid teens pricewise. Maybe that's the way to go.

Jay
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Re:3D alternative 22 Nov 2009 22:05 #32851

does anyone who went to showeast remember the name of the other potential lens supplier. I am very interested but among those for which a $2000 per film minimum is pricey. Thanks
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Re:3D alternative 22 Nov 2009 23:04 #32852

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John,
I found the companies name again. oculus3d.com is their website. Not much information there though.
Jay
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Re:3D alternative 04 Dec 2009 23:50 #32927

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Just thought I let you know that I was finally contacted by Technicolor.
He said they were swamped by inquiries following Showeast. Still sounds strange to me but at least he was apologetic.

He offered me the same terms as mentioned here and I respectfully declined.
I told him to call me again once they adjusted their price level.
Something nobody had mentioned before :
for the first 500 who take a lens, Technicolor has financing available for the necessary silver screen (up to $7000).

John, did you contact Oculus? Any news?

Jay
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Re:3D alternative 05 Dec 2009 00:22 #32928

one time payment in mid teens. requires silver screen. not sure which distributors they have signed up.they will have it more formalized in early 2010
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Re:3D alternative 05 Dec 2009 14:09 #32930

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Both Disney and Fox have stated publicly that they will not support the Technicolor 35mm 3D format. There are comparative quality issues between digital 3D and 35mm 3D, and both studios are rightfully concerned about tarnishing the reputation of digital 3D, and also confusing the public with an inferior alternative 3D 35mm format. Disney has gone a long way to establish their own "Disney Digital 3D" brand, so I do not see them ever supporting the 35mm 3D format.

Rick
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Re:3D alternative 05 Dec 2009 17:35 #32932

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Hi Rick:

It seems you may be making an assumption about the quality issue. Since it hasn't come out yet we cannot assume simply because something is on film it is inferior to digital and even if it is I am not convinced that anyone but techo-geeks will notice the difference.
Bob Allen
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Re:3D alternative 06 Dec 2009 06:19 #32933

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It says a lot that Fox, which is hoping for as many 3D screens as they can get for AVATAR, stated firmly that they will not be supporting Technicolor's 35mm 3D.

The 35mm 3D has been demonstrated at ShowEast and at a 3D expo back in September. Those who I have spoken with who have viewed the demonstration were not impressed, and the consensus has been that it is "clearly inferior" to digital 3D. At best it is a stop-gap, at worst a waste of money and effort.

Rick
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