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no tickets? 08 Jan 2008 13:51 #17274

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Hello all -

I have begun doing some research to replace our present ticketing system (www.bigscreenbiz.com/ubb/Forum47/HTML/000302.html). I was interested to know, however, if anyone had toyed with not using any tickets at all. Our theater (The Lyric Theatre) is small enough that it might work to NOT use tickets at all, but I'm not sure how to go about it and I'd like some ideas.

Thanks!
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Re: no tickets? 08 Jan 2008 13:57 #17275

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, helvetica">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by robaker:
<B>Hello all -

I have begun doing some research to replace our present ticketing system (link to my post about this). I was interested to know, however, if anyone had toyed with not using any tickets at all. Our theater (The Lyric Theatre) is small enough that it might work to NOT use tickets at all, but I'm not sure how to go about it and I'd like some ideas.

Thanks!</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Re: no tickets? 08 Jan 2008 19:05 #17276

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We give a ticket but we do not tear or collect them after they are given out..Many states such as ours require a ticket be given out as proof of collection of sales tax..
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Re: no tickets? 08 Jan 2008 19:07 #17277

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I once managed a theater that had only a turnstyle...no tickets
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Re: no tickets? 08 Jan 2008 19:12 #17278

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Some jurisdictions require a ticket be issued (and accounted for) so they can collect "admissions tax".
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Re: no tickets? 08 Jan 2008 20:34 #17279

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If you run a theatre, perhaps this might be a good time to review the agreements you signed with the studios when you opened up. Most, if not all of them require that a ticket be produced. There are various ways to go about this, but NOT producing a ticket is not one of them.

This might be different with art/indie studios though... I don't know much about them.

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Re: no tickets? 08 Jan 2008 23:46 #17280

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Many states such as ours require a ticket be given out as proof of collection of sales tax.

THAT SHOULD READ ADMISSION TAX!
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Re: no tickets? 09 Jan 2008 09:44 #17281

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If you don't have a ticket to count how would you count poeple in and like the other posts stats prove it to the film company.
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Re: no tickets? 09 Jan 2008 11:21 #17282

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As every thing is on computer it is esy to verify if you get a checker..I have never ever heard of a film co asking for stubs.
Stubs are used mainly by home office to check managers.
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Re: no tickets? 09 Jan 2008 11:36 #17283

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We punch tickets out in order simply to keep track of the number of patrons. TBH, I'm not sure if Virginia requires proof for sales or not, but it hasn't been an issue for us thus far.

We don't collect the tickets and one of our employees posed the question, "Why give tickets at all?"

Thanks again for the input...I have a couple questions I need to answer for myself (tax reporting, etc.) now.

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Re: no tickets? 09 Jan 2008 11:40 #17284

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we dont collect ticket ,i use them as a check with patrons for ticket holder lines.
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Re: no tickets? 10 Jan 2008 11:41 #17285

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Having worked for a less than honest owner I was involved in a full audit by the film companies. They want everything - copies of all daily/weekly boxoffice reports, ticket stubs (they actually counted and checked the series numbers for missing stubs and breaks in secquence) Reciepts for ticket stock purchased. They matched these against the stubs provided by their blind checkers. Seems the owner was redoing all nightly sales reports and skimming admissions. He even kept duplicate tickets in the home office and would tear tickets and keep stubs to match the submitted reports. His initial response to the film companies was to blame the manager (me) However, I kept file copies of my daily reports and when the auditior checked my reports against the checkers I was cleared. I left this company and was able to stay in the business. Shortly thereafter the previous owner went out of business ( SUPRISE !!) This is when I came back to be owner/operator of my first site. But boy did the film companies watch ALL of this old owners loucations very closely. Seems this guy "sold" several units to his previous managers "on paper", but still owned the new corporations that "bought" the sites.
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Re: no tickets? 10 Jan 2008 12:22 #17286

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Most theaters dont use ticket stock anymore and are all computer tickets...
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Re: no tickets? 10 Jan 2008 14:24 #17287

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Most theaters dont use ticket stock anymore and are all computer tickets

That's probably true, though I do know of a couple of theatres that still use roll tickets, and one that just sells them off of a cash register.

Since I've never been to a theatre that didn't hand out some form of admission receipt, I'd be suspicious of any place that didn't... at least for awhile.
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