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Using an abandoned Grocery Store or Department store for the 10 Dec 2002 15:36 #14875

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Hi Guys,
Long Time Reader, First time poster.
I wanted to get everyone's opinion.

I am thinking about building a 5 screen movie theatre. What would be everyone's opinion about using the empty shell of an old department store(former kmart) or grocery store(albertsons). If I were to go with the empty shell idea, should I build up my elevation to allow for the slope? or should I excavate the floor to allow for the slope?

Has anyone else used an old department store or grocery store to renovate into a movie theatre before? The size seems perfect for a 5 screen movie theatre. And adding walls would be a breeze it seems.

Thanks Alot for your help.

-Brent

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Re: Using an abandoned Grocery Store or Department store for the 10 Dec 2002 17:20 #14876

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We converted an old grocery store into a 6 plex (currently adding a 7th screen)

We excavated the floor for the auditoriums.

Original building shell was 25,500 square feet, 12' ceilings, maximum we had to go down was 30 inches. In the end we will have 7 auditoriums with seat counts of 310-260-180-150-150-130-120.

We have one side of the building that is the lobby, you come into the main entrance and take a left - one long counter - 12 stations - one stop ticketing and concessions, we just put kiosks in at the entrance.

We are in the process of doing this again at another location, this location has higher ceilings, so no digging, much cheaper!

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Re: Using an abandoned Grocery Store or Department store for the 10 Dec 2002 17:45 #14877

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The Blythe Cinemas (in Blythe, Calif.) is built in an old Albertsons grocery store. The floor was excavated for the slope. Pictures are on cinematour.com

The Franklin Plaza theater (a.k.a. Shelton Cinemas in Shelton, Wash.) was built in a former telephone company warehouse.

These kind of buildings will work provided there are no posts or obstructions in the sight lines.

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Re: Using an abandoned Grocery Store or Department store for the 10 Dec 2002 22:32 #14878

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The Destinta Theatres (12 screens) in Middletown, CT opened inside an old Waldbaum's supermarket in 1999. Showcase Cinemas Buckland Hills (14 screens) opened in 1998 in Manchester, CT inside an old Builder's Square store (think that must've been kind of like Home Depot). Both of these theatres are beautiful and you would never know that their facilities were not brand new and not built specifically for a movie theatre.
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Re: Using an abandoned Grocery Store or Department store for the 11 Dec 2002 01:15 #14879

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We built 7 screens inside an old Zellers store (Sort of a canadian version of walmart).
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Re: Using an abandoned Grocery Store or Department store for the 11 Dec 2002 12:06 #14880

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The O'Neil's Cinema circuit bought an old Kroger grocery store on the Madison side of Nashville, TN back in the early 90's and converted into a 16 screen dollar house. It ran that way for several years, but closed down about two years ago and still sits empty.

We went ONCE. The dollar screen theatres attracted a somewhat "different" crowd than I am accustomed to, and the place was always filthy.

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Re: Using an abandoned Grocery Store or Department store for the 11 Dec 2002 13:01 #14881

Mill, what are your seat counts?

I was interested in one of two abandoned buildings in the Westwood Village Stripmall.

One was an old Safeway and the other was an old Zellers that Hangers temporarily filled for awhile. The stripmall was located on Portage Ave, heading out towards the drive-in and very close to it.

I was thinking twin with 300-400 in each room, while now, you could do, maybe, 100 in each room and have an 8 plex... Hmm.. I should think about this!

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Re: Using an abandoned Grocery Store or Department store for the 11 Dec 2002 20:12 #14882

We have worked on the design and retrofit of many comercial buildings over to movie theatres. In most cases the post are not a big issue if new beams are added to offset there location. The biggest problem can be parking in some downtown locations
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Re: Using an abandoned Grocery Store or Department store for the 08 Apr 2007 13:45 #14883

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I know this is an old thread but thought i'd post,

Its amazing what you can do with old buildings, Why knock something down when they can be used again?

I came across this thread because i was thinking of building my own cinemas, But now that i have an idea of building a cinema into a old seupermarket will be nice,

How about large warehouses?
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Re: Using an abandoned Grocery Store or Department store for the 08 Apr 2007 14:10 #14884

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The Crescent City Cinemas (Calif.) (owned by Coming Attractions Theatres) was built inside an old Thrifty Drugs building. I believe there are 8 screens. They ramped up the floor beyond the concessions to the auditoriums and were then able to slope the floors (no stadium seating). You can do this with just about any building that has a high enough ceiling.

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Re: Using an abandoned Grocery Store or Department store for the 08 Apr 2007 16:25 #14885

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Sounds nice


Do you know how big thier screens are?
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Re: Using an abandoned Grocery Store or Department store for the 09 Apr 2007 00:47 #14886

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There's a six-screen not too far from here that was built in an old Rite-Aid store in a strip mall. I have been there a couple times. They have stadium seating, but all the auditoriums are very small and odd shaped because of those posts.
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Re: Using an abandoned Grocery Store or Department store for the 10 Apr 2007 01:11 #14887

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, helvetica">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dexxa:
<B>Sounds nice


Do you know how big thier screens are?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No. But having been in several of the auditoriums I would judge them to be "big enough".



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Re: Using an abandoned Grocery Store or Department store for the 10 Apr 2007 22:35 #14888

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Certainly it can and has been done successfully. You will be limited in screen sizes and sightlines, and may not be able to slope the floor for optimum sightlines. Don't forget to have good acoustic isolation between auditoriums.

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Re: Using an abandoned Grocery Store or Department store for the 19 Apr 2007 05:58 #14889

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I was looking at this building
http://www.homesonview.co.uk/Scripts/ShowProperty.asp?css=&CompanyI D=CPWABEES&AgencyID=CPWABEES&ID=CBP01457

Try and get both floors, Do you think that could be turned into a small cinema 3 - 5 screens maybe?

Or
http://www.homesonview.co.uk/Scripts/ShowProperty.asp?css=&CompanyID=CPWABEES&AgencyID=CPWABEES&ID=CBP00112

which has 3 floors, I'll have to buy all 3 parts

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