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small 2 screen sizes? 02 Feb 2004 13:08 #14166

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My Northern theatre needs a couple more screens. We already have 2 with 200 seats each. I want to add a new attavhed building with 2 screens and go as small as you can do and look & work okay. What size do you suggest? I'm thinking 60 seats +/- each. How wide and How long would the rooms be? Guesstimates are fine. Thanks/ Mike

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Re: small 2 screen sizes? 02 Feb 2004 16:26 #14167

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Start with a 10' x 24' screen. You can probably fit this in as low as a 14' ceiling. (more is better)

So lets say that this room is 30' wide with an exit door on the side. Your isle needs to be 48" wide. You can also have two isles in this room and it will seem spacious and roomy. You don't want your front row any closer than 15' from the screen and lets pretend that there is 5' behind the screen. (There could be less) So your rows would be 10 (24" chairs) wide. So 7 rows of 48" pitch seats would be about 28 feet long. Lets put in a 5' wide cross isle in the back and take out 4 chairs in the back of the last row for wheel chairs. So 5'+28'+15'+5'=53' So your room is 30' wide by 53' long, holds 66 spacious seats has room for 2 wheel chairs and has not a bad seat in the house. Nobody has to sit next to a wall and nobody has to get up to allow somebody to pass in front.
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Re: small 2 screen sizes? 02 Feb 2004 16:27 #14168

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If you build an auditorium with 49 seats, you are required to have a secondary exit door. (Subject to local codes of course.)
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Re: small 2 screen sizes? 02 Feb 2004 18:40 #14169

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My two theatres are each 50' wide. Theatres currently are 24' wide.

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Re: small 2 screen sizes? 03 Feb 2004 20:16 #14170

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Mike,

We have 2 small auditoriums. They seat 66 and 88 people. Sounds like the size range you are looking at. As we are having our screens masked correctly and had to buy new lenses I have some measurements at hand.
They are back to back with the projection booth above and the hallway below. Both are 27' wide with high 20' ceilings. Theater #3 which seats 88 is 39' to the screen which has nothing more than 1.5 - 2 feet behind. (The speakers will have to be specially ordered when we replace them). Our screen is 13'6" X 24'6". It sits 4'8' above the floor. I don't have the floor slant measurement but it is too steep to meet ADA codes. We have 8 rows with 11 high back rockers per row. They are much too close together and the seat pitch is wrong also. We currently have two side aisles and a back cross aisle. No place for wheelchairs or walkers to be placed. Amazingly, when we sell out we are able to sell down to nearly the last seat as people seem to be able to find the remaining seats better than in a larger theater. I also usually go in and start pointing out the seats and asking people to move over.

Theater #4 is smaller with 66 seats - 6 rows of 11 of the same high back rockers. The screen is the same size but the distance between back wall and screen is 34'. This is the most difficult theater to lense correctly as it is very short. Even the new scope lense they sent based on the new masking measurements had to be cropped so we didn't project on the side walls. The floor slant is also too steep in here but I don't know what it is.

So much for the technical info. Living with these two theaters is always interesting. I get all sorts of comments from people walking into them from "Just the size of my living room" to "Oh this is small." I also have a few people who refuse to watch a movie in them. Partly because the picture is too big for some people to handle. Most people prefer to sit in the back rows. The other two screens are so much larger that anyone used to them is surprised by the difference in the size of these two. I personally prefer to watch movies in these two rather than the larger screens. These two are just more intimate. We sell out in these two fairly often and so we move prints around if the audience sizes in #1 or #2 aren't justifying their large screens. This is a problem mostly in the summer and over holidays. Otherwise, they serve their purpose which is a holding area for the 3rd & 4th week of a contract when the audience size has gone down and levelled out. They are also a good place to open art/specialty film which will never attract 300 people. I hope this info helps a bit.
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Re: small 2 screen sizes? 04 Feb 2004 14:30 #14171

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Thank you all/ that helps/

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Re: small 2 screen sizes? 12 Feb 2004 08:32 #14172

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Get a copy of standard SMPTE 196M:
http://www.smpte.org/smpte_store/standards/

Prime seats should be 2 to 4 times the image height from the screen. Most modern 35mm theatres have seats in the range of 1 to 5 screen heights. Any closer than 1 screen height can give neck strain and noticable graininess. Further than 5 screen heights, you might as well be watching television.

So for a 10 x 24 foot screen, most of your seats should be between 20 and 40 feet from the screen, and a good auditorium size would be no more than about 50 feet long.

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Re: small 2 screen sizes? 21 Jul 2004 15:51 #14173

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Bump. I knew we talked about this some time ago and found the thread. If you want to take a look at these 2 screens to see how they feel, you are always welcome. Just email me.
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Re: small 2 screen sizes? 09 Jan 2007 21:11 #14174

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Anyone have any updates or have any advice for perfect small rooms?

How has additional screens helped or hurt?

Thanks

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Re: small 2 screen sizes? 11 Jan 2007 17:05 #14175

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Perfect is a bit much to hope for. Good is often great compared to nothing. Thanks for finding this post as I can use it as I am still working on my extra screens.

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