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Down to the licklog! 26 Feb 2001 23:46 #1292

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My engineering reports on the building are in
and I've paid for some expensive presentation
drawings. All this to restore a single-screen theatre built in 1913, kept in the family all this time, but not used as a theatre since 1961.
I've been out of the biz since 1986, so I
have a few questions from you guys current in the business.
The original floor was planked in a
herringbone-type design, but little is left
of it or the necessary slant for the
auditorium seating. What is best material
to replace: plywood or concrete? And what
is minimum slant allowable? I have been told
one inch to the foot.
My last projecton gig was on two Simplexes with carbon arc. I know nothing
about automated projection although I've
gathered from these posts that 2 projectors,
each with a 6000' film capacity is best.
A set-up table is a necessity as is a tape
splicer but how about other equipment in a
booth? Are rewinds and reel-storage racks
still a must?
I would appreciate any thoughts on these
or any other issues you think need to be addressed. I must put together a tight
budget to present to my investors and I'm down to the licklog.
Many thanks
Alan
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Re: Down to the licklog! 27 Feb 2001 02:25 #1293

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For your floor try to have concrete instead of wood. Soda pop spills, termites, carpenter ants, etc. can ruin wood floors in short order and wood floors creak. There's an excellent one page technical article on theater floor slopes & seating posted under "Quick Tips" at www.film-center.com that came from my archives.

Do stick with large 6000 foot reels and two projectors for a single screen operation. A large reel rewinder is needed as is a place to store those large reels. Always check your local fire and building codes for theaters to see what requirements you need in those areas.

What about sound systems? Do you plan on mono, stereo, or digital sound?
What condition is the existing projection equipment?
Are you going to have to make any A.D.A. upgrades like handicap restrooms or adding "hearing impaired" headsets to the sound system? Will you be required to add a fire sprinkler system and/or emergency lights? That can get costly!

How's the snack bar? Is it layed out for maximum customer convenience? Does health dept require a 3-bay sink? Is hot water required in restrooms and snack bar for handwashing?

What about your heating/cooling system? How old is it? What type---boiler, gas heat, electric heat, oil heat? Any ASBESTOS in your building?
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Re: Down to the licklog! 27 Feb 2001 07:46 #1294

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For a single screen, a pair of reel-to-reel projectors is a better choice than a platter for the flexibility they offer. When using large reels, you need to be careful about controlling the feed and takeup tensions. Use "floating hub" 6000 foot reels to minimize jerking tensions. A rewind bench with VARIABLE speed winder for the 6000 foot reels is recommended. A high quality tape splicer is needed for today's polyester prints. Red LED analog sound readers and SR-type noise reduction assure compatibility with future cyan dye tracks. Audiences today almost DEMAND digital sound. Be sure to have enough light to get the SMPTE aim of 16 footlamberts. If you have a smaller screen, consider using three-blade shutters to eliminate flicker (you'll need 2X the lamp wattage however). Give your audiences plenty of leg room and comfortable seats with cup holders --- the advantages of stadium seating without the cost and problems.

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Re: Down to the licklog! 27 Feb 2001 18:48 #1295

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Ken,
We have no existing projection equipment.
Gotta get used stuff and start from scratch.
I think digital sound is almost a given now
that audiences are used to it. We won't need
anything for the hearing-impaired although we
will have to provide restrooms and wheelchair
space that conform to ADA. Yes, we are
required to have a 3-compartment sink with
hot water and a seperate lavatory for hand washing. Also hot H2o in the restrooms.
There is no existing heating/cooling
system. The original cooling was fan-forced
air over water and the heating was a line of
steam radiators behind the back row of seats
on the ground floor(For the entire building!)
Just basic fire extinguishers is all we'll need. I'm not entirely sure about the
concession layout. Will have to put a pen
to paper and diagram it. If you know of any links that might help, would appreciate.
Thanks for your thoughts. I always
enjoy reading your posts. In fact, it was a
post of yours on another website(can't remember what site) that led me to bigscreenbiz!
Sincerely,
Alan




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Re: Down to the licklog! 27 Feb 2001 18:57 #1296

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John,
The technical specs you suggested are invaluble in that at least now I know what
equipment to seek and price. Much appreciation for your thoughtful and knowledgable input.
Sincerely,
Alan


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Re: Down to the licklog! 28 Feb 2001 11:19 #1297

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Hi Sim....... hey! What the heck is a licklog! What kind of movie theatre are you running anyway?


Seriously: you're brandy new in the quip dept. and the good news is that you''re a single screen. That's the bad news too but I guess you've thought long and hard about that.

How big is the floor space on your theatre? Sq. FT?

The good news is that if you've only got to buy 2 projectors and the rest of it you won't go broke getting started. This is a very good time in a buyers market. Used equipment is a bargain and haggle hard for it and you'll do fine.

Floor? Depends what you're putting it on. Crete is good if you don't have to build some massive support frame. Plywood is fine, painted well. Slope is local code and check with your code guy in town.

Best of luck. !!!

Mike Hurley
www.bigscreenbiz.com
Michael Hurley
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Re: Down to the licklog! 28 Feb 2001 15:37 #1298

Mike a licklog is a place where people put salt or minerals out for animals to come and lick mainly deer and livestock My mom grew up on licklog creek.

Just make sure on the ADA stuff for the assisted hearing junk. You might have to have it
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