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Why is MPAA and NATO a no show on piracy? 02 Dec 2005 18:34 #11398

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Whay do distribs, NATO, and MPAA not get tough on file shareing and bootleggers? It's a mystery to me. What do they know that we don't know?

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Re: Why is MPAA and NATO a no show on piracy? 02 Dec 2005 20:37 #11399

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Talking of piracy! On nay weekend you can leave the local multiplex and be able to purchase the movie you just saw plus all th eothers by the guy with a display in the parking lot. Now if you see it sodoes the manager and everyone else.
Also every corner of popular shoping strips you can get any movie before it comes out.
What is the problem and how does this go on. Yet you will ge a ticket for double parking to ge a copy but the bootlegers will be untouched!
I get sick..another example. This summer you have police patroling the beaches and giving people tickets for drinking beers,surfing and leaving your blanket unattended. But you have guys go up and down the beaches selling bootlegs I even saw a cop buy a copy of Fantastic Four from one of them!
sucks it really does the way there handling the whole piracy issue. It's like they have to make mention of it but refuse to go all out on it!
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Re: Why is MPAA and NATO a no show on piracy? 03 Dec 2005 00:05 #11400

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how do you mean "get tough"? Bring out the sockful of quarters and rough 'em up a bit? Neither of those organizations nor the distributors are in law enforcement. The real question is how come local and federal law enforcement is looking the other way? I think it is getting easier and easier for piracy to continue unabated and it is a huge problem for the distributors that is only going to get worse. I do wonder why we don't hear about it more from the studios....
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Re: Why is MPAA and NATO a no show on piracy? 03 Dec 2005 10:30 #11401

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Isn't stopping piracy one of the selling points to have us all switch to digital projection?




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Re: Why is MPAA and NATO a no show on piracy? 03 Dec 2005 12:45 #11402

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You think piracy will end with digital...it will never end and there will always be ways to get the product out there illegally.
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Re: Why is MPAA and NATO a no show on piracy? 03 Dec 2005 13:31 #11403

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by "get tough" I guess I mean why is there nothing like what the music people did to Napster & co? NATO can certainly lobby to enforce anti piracy laws. Someone could sue the file sharing movie hosts. Someone could organize a bit of busting for dvd knock offs. Why doesn't the distribs and the others take a more proactive stand?

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Re: Why is MPAA and NATO a no show on piracy? 03 Dec 2005 14:42 #11404

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"You think piracy will end with digital...it will never end and there will always be ways to get the product out there illegally."

Nope, I think it will make it easier. Since the data will be passing through more technically minded hands. Plus any code can eventually be broken. Won't be a need to camcorder the movie in the theatre anymore. It will already be in digital data format. Just need the unlock key.

What they did to Napster probably is the way they are headed. Look at Napster lately? They are now selling the music legally. But a lot of illegal servers popped up to replace them anyway. In China 90% of DVD sales are pirated bootleg copies. And you can bet they are making it to our shores easily and quickly. And they are not back room operations there either. They are duplicating and pressing plants doing little sideline operations at night....

Law enforcement at the street level, I don't think sees much incentive for busting it up.
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Re: Why is MPAA and NATO a no show on piracy? 03 Dec 2005 14:51 #11405

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This thread showed some local efforts.
http://www.bigscreenbiz.com/ubb/Forum39/HTML/002044.html
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Re: Why is MPAA and NATO a no show on piracy? 08 Dec 2005 11:08 #11406

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Interesting article today from the Associated Press. On a bill the MPAA is pushing.

By DAVID B. CARUSO
NEW YORK (AP) - Every evening rush hour, hustlers lugging bags full of bootlegged movies walk the subway train aisles, calling "two for five dollars!" as brazenly as if they were selling hot dogs at Yankee Stadium. At those prices, the DVDs, often of current Hollywood blockbusters, sell well, despite laughable sound and picture quality.

Few customers seem to care the copies were made illegally.
Bootleggers apparently have little to fear. Under state law, people caught videotaping inside a movie theater face a maximum fine of $250.

As part of its worldwide campaign against piracy, the film industry is pushing for tougher penalties for smuggling a camcorder into a cinema in New York, which has the country's worst bootlegging problem and some of the weakest penalties.

A bill pushed by the Motion Picture Association of America would make operating recording equipment inside a theater a criminal misdemeanor, raising the maximum punishment to a $1,000 fine and a year in jail.

Making the crime a misdemeanor also would empower police to arrest violators on the spot, rather than simply issuing a summons.
People caught a second time would be charged with a felony.

"We have to do something, because right now there's no risk," said William J. Shannon, a Yonkers-based deputy director of the association's U.S. anti-piracy operation. "Right now, you're looking at something about the same as a parking ticket."

Legislators, film industry representatives and lawyers met Wednesday in Manhattan to discuss the new proposal, which would make New York one of several states to adopt tougher rules on movie piracy in recent years.

But Pace Law School professor David N. Cassuto likened the use of tough criminal penalties to attack the lowest-level offenders in pirating operations to "using a howitzer to solve a roach problem."

The proposed penalties would also apply to an obnoxious 16-year-old who holds up a camera phone during the coming attractions to snap a photograph of the screen, warned defense attorney Marvin Schecter.

Through intricate watermarking technology, investigators can now determine in which theater a film was playing when it was recorded by someone with a handheld camera.

About half the bootleg films that are recorded live in a theater, duplicated thousands of times, then sent around the globe originated in New York City, the trade group said.

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Re: Why is MPAA and NATO a no show on piracy? 08 Dec 2005 12:00 #11407

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And from Reuters on DVD sales.

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Movie sales on DVD are likely nearing their peak worldwide as more people look to computer downloads and video-on-demand to watch their favorite programming, according to a report released on Wednesday.

"The PC industry is champing at the bit to provide downloaded movies that might compete with DVD sales, and Pay-TV services want to add movies to their video-on-demand services, to their new disk-drive-equipped set-top boxes, and to their emerging high-definition TV services," said Gerry Kaufhold, an In-Stat analyst and author of the report.

DVD sales growth is slowing, according to several recent reports. A study released by Adams Media Research in October forecast DVD sales of about $17.3 billion this year, a 12 percent rise from 2004. Adams forecast a 9 percent rise to $18.9 billion in 2006.
The industry also is grappling with a scuffle over what technology will underpin the new wave of high-definition DVDs, the report said.

"The migration to next-generation high-definition optical disc formats is not going smoothly," Kaufhold said.

On one side is Sony Corp. with its Blu-ray format and studio supporters such as Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc., and Fox Filmed Entertainment. The rival format is HD DVD, championed by a group of consumer electronics companies including Toshiba Corp..
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